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    666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by michael144/Admin on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:22 am


    666 and the mark of the beast is the severest warning you will find in the entire Bible but today there is a massive number of interpretations on what 666 and the mark of the beast is. Most people believe that 666 is the mark of the beast but note closely that Revelation 13:17 says, "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Did you note that the mark of the beast is different to the number of his name being 666, which is the number of a man? The day will come when all people will get either the mark, the name, or the number. This doesn't mean that the government will say someday, "Do you want the mark, the name, or the number?"

    Prophecy minded Christians of today imagine that 666 and the mark of the beast will come from the devil and will be enforced by the Antichrist and will be used to control buying and selling, and they assume it will be centred around some kind of high tech computer technology. Revelation 13:16 says "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads" The Bible does not specifically say it will be a "miniature biochip" or even that it will involve technology at all. These modern words, "computer," "biochip," "technology," "bar code," and "scanner" do not appear in Revelation. People just assume that it will happen this way.

    The Bible does specifically say in Revelation 19:20, "He deceived them that had received the mark of the beast" Did you notice that those who receive 666 or the mark of the beast are deceived. It stands to reason therefore that 666 and the mark of the beast must involve some sort of subtle deception, that is, it must not be too obvious or easily noticed. If it were, how could almost the entire world be mislead? Jesus warned us that Satan's deceptions are so deceptive they can "deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24. How deceptive would it be for someone to command everyone to accept a computerized biochip in their foreheads or in their hands? How many real people do you know who would accept big government implanting biochip technology inside their heads?

    When we look carefully at Revelation, we discover that the mark of the beast is not the only thing placed in people's foreheads. Amazingly, the forehead is mentioned many times apart from the mark. The first time the mark is mentioned is in Revelation 13:16. Three verses later John saw a group called the 144,000 with the "Father's name written in their foreheads" Revelation 14:1. This solitary verse places new light on the whole topic. One group gets the mark of the beast while the other group gets the Mark of God, that is, the name of God in their foreheads. Referring to the saved, the very last chapter of the Bible says, "They shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads." Revelation 22:4. Hence both saints and sinners will all have something in their foreheads one day. Does this mean that God's people will walk around with actual visible letters written on their foreheads?

    Harlot riding a BeastThe apostle John, who wrote Revelation, also saw an evil scarlet woman riding a beast. "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS" Revelation 17:5. No one doubts this is a symbolic prophecy. There will be no real prostitute riding a beast and therefore the writing of that mysterious name upon her forehead is also symbolic as the woman here symbolically represents a Church.

    Was the mark the Lord set upon Cain a physical mark or was it symbolic also? Genesis 4:15 reads, "And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him." Did Cain spend the rest of his life with writing on His forehead and would anyone have acknowledged it?

    The idea of the hand and forehead is not only found in Revelation. It is by no coincidence that Moses speaking of the Ten Commandments told the Israelites, "These Commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts…Tie them as symbols on your HANDS and bind them on your FOREHEADS" Deuteronomy 6:6, 8. Note the KJV translates "on your foreheads" to "frontlets between thine eyes" which means forehead. Again Moses said, "Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your HANDS and bind them on your FOREHEADS." Deuteronomy 11:18. In other words, God said His Ten Commandment law was to be a sign upon our hands and foreheads. Where does the mark of the beast go? What about the Seal of God? So what is the symbolism behind your HANDS and FOREHEAD?

    Some believe 666 and the mark is a microchip injected into the hand or forehead. Others feel it may be connected to a credit or national health card or even a bar code or tattoo. Are we to speculate to understand Bible prophecy? 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." So what are all theses theories you here today on 666 and the mark of the beast being technology? They are speculation, which we are told not to do and are not necessary. So how about we take the Biblical approach and see what God's Word says 666 and the mark is.....

    666 Mark of the Beast - Page 2 - Who is the beast that enforces the mark?

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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by Guest on Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:20 pm

    This was fascinating and exactly what I was looking for! It answered many questions for me. I would love to discuss it as I have a ton more questions. lol


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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by michael144/Admin on Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:29 pm

    trueimage wrote:This was fascinating and exactly what I was looking for! It answered many questions for me. I would love to discuss it as I have a ton more questions. lol
    Yes this is good stuff and when you apply it to history it makes total sense as apposed to many churches still pushing these prophecies into the future.

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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by Guest on Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:32 pm

    Smile Would love to discuss with you.............clear up some doubts maybe.
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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by metaloop on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:06 pm

    Ok Mike, I just finished reading this whole thing. And it was good. Very well laid out. And reading it, I thought to myself, 'yeah, it makes perfect sense. It all fits together, if I just let Scripture interpret itself, and refrain from private interpretation.'

    But there's one thing that I walked away confused about. And that's the part about buying and selling.

    The site mentioned that, but it didn't explain it.

    We know there are no idle words in Scripture. And we know that it interprets itself. So the answer has to be there.

    But I'm at a loss on this one. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Why in the world would only those worshipping on Sunday be able to buy or sell?
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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by michael144/Admin on Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:46 pm

    Yes, I am foggy on that as well meta. The reason they don't elaborate farther on that also is for the same reason you and I are foggy. But remember in Daniel the Angel said the prophecy was sealed until the time of the end. And the reason Daniel was so puzzled that it made him sick was because the history being laid out in the prophecy had not happened yet. Daniel also understood not.

    At this point we can only guess about the buying and selling part until it actually comes to pass historically.

    It will have something to do with ......haha! well I would only be guessing also so it's kind of futile right now.

    But I posted a kind of prayer asking God to open our eyes to things not understood.

    My bet is we will immediately recognize it when it comes.

    Meanwhile let's keep attempting to look at it and asking God to reveal it to us. He will.

    But now that the beast is clear we have a better chance of pinpointing that mark or sign we must possess to buy and sell.
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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by metaloop on Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:44 am

    Thanks Michael.

    One more question for you:

    The beast is now clear--or is it?

    History repeats itself and Scripture repeats itself. The papacy meets the criteria of the beast, and Sunday worship meets the criteria of the mark.

    But what if there is a beast yet to come?

    In Isaiah we read about the Assyrian that is used like a tool in the hand of Yahweh against Israel. We see this paralleled in Revelation.

    Look at current events in the news. It's easy to see that the stage is being set for armies to surround Israel, for the land to be divided, and for yet another antichrist to show himself as God in Jerusalem.

    I agree with you, Michael, that what we've seen come to pass does meet the criteria laid out in prophecy. But I also see the world headed in the direction of fulfilling prophecy yet again, in a different way than in the past, yet just as complete as Scripture foretells.

    Thoughts?
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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by michael144/Admin on Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:49 am

    metaloop wrote:Thanks Michael.

    One more question for you:

    The beast is now clear--or is it?

    History repeats itself and Scripture repeats itself. The papacy meets the criteria of the beast, and Sunday worship meets the criteria of the mark.

    But what if there is a beast yet to come?

    In Isaiah we read about the Assyrian that is used like a tool in the hand of Yahweh against Israel. We see this paralleled in Revelation.

    Look at current events in the news. It's easy to see that the stage is being set for armies to surround Israel, for the land to be divided, and for yet another antichrist to show himself as God in Jerusalem.

    I agree with you, Michael, that what we've seen come to pass does meet the criteria laid out in prophecy. But I also see the world headed in the direction of fulfilling prophecy yet again, in a different way than in the past, yet just as complete as Scripture foretells.

    Thoughts?
    Yes remember the 2 horned beast causes all to worship the first beast whose deadly wound was healed.

    The kingdom of the Papacy began in 538 A.D. and was removed by Napoleon in 1798(deadly wound)

    That wound was healed the same year the stock market crashed;1929

    The Papacy received it's sovereign state status back.

    It says the 2 horned beast will make an image or likeness to the first beast so this has yet to happen.

    It will be a religious and tyrannical government (speak as a dragon)

    See America in Prophecy

    and America in Prophecy - Wohlberg 1-5

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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by Guest on Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:16 am

    michael144/Admin wrote:
    My bet is we will immediately recognize it when it comes.

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    Will we? What about 'even the very elect will be deceived' ?

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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by Guest on Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:33 pm

    buying and selling: is reserved for those who give presidence to flesh/physical needs/concerns, who aren't listening to God's Voice. The Children of God, on the other hand, who refuse to worship on Sunday or to take part in whatever freakish evil plan is required, we must "endure to the end". Why? Probably to enhance our Faith and to be a beacon of Truth (Jesus) for those who are weak, or confused, or in doubt, but still in "the valley for decision". Everything God does is for the growth of The Kingdom, His Kingdom, and therefore, because of His great Love for us.

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    Re: 666 and the Mark of the Beast Truth

    Post by Guest on Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:10 pm

    THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi, by the way

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